Tuesday, November 5, 2013

Unforgivable Forgiveness

Someone pointed this one out to me, but who it was is lost in the mists of my archives.

A man is beaten by a bunch of teenagers, and then forgives them - 'It was just young kids lashing out. I was a young kid once. I lashed out.'

A bit surprising, perhaps, but not exactly evil.

Except Freepers think this is Unamerican and liberal and unchristain:

wrencher - Real Men take revenge!
well they did it- they beat him senseless...

lol, you said it best. What a pussified metrosexual.
Bon of Babble knows forgiving blacks only encourages them:
Unbelievable! (well, maybe it isn't). There needs to be less forgiveness and more retribution for these attacks, otherwise they'll continue. And, we all know teen is code word for...
Molon Labbie mocks this guy's assumed White guilt:
“I forgive you, I really deserved this..for something...um, that white people did to you people...oh my God, I’m sorry, I said “you people”... see that means I really am racist...(boohoo)”
GOPJ is sure the forgiveness is secretly cowardice:
He’s scared the little shits will come after him again... which they probably will anyhow... His fear is understandable. In a combat situation you have friends around you who will defend you if they can. Who does this man have to help him? No one. He’s in my prayers...
abigail2's theology seems to be to cause as much suffering as possible:
Christians don’t understand ‘forgiveness’ I find. We are not God we can’t really ‘forgive them. Only God can forgive them. It is good for us to let go of our hatred, but they have to repent to find peace. And usually that means suffering of some sort. I know it did for me on various occasions...
sport explains Jesus wants this guy beaten to death:
Next time they will finish the job. But, in the end, they will be doing him a favor. Because, if that is his take on things, he does not have the intelligence to cope with life. As Jesus said to His Disciples before he went to the Cross, it is a evil world out there, if any man does not have a sword, let him sell his cloak and buy one.
dennisw laments how America is merciful:
In other cultures you get revenge and this has its pluses.

America is mostly a non-revenge nation full of people fantasizing they are too good and superior for such tawdry actions
CreviceTool waits...and boasts.
I was beaten by 8 gang members in LA. An unknown Good Samaritan with a handgun scared them away before they finished me off. When that happens, you crap your pants because you are about to die.

Fortunately, I got their license plate numbers and the LAPD rounded up 5 of them. That was when the intimidation began 24x7. It is scary and discourages you from pressing charges.

I dropped the charges when the pre-trial intake judge told me they would likely get suspended sentences. I circled the date 5 years in the future to take my revenge when nobody would make the connection back to the beating.

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  1. Less forgiveness! That's the Christian way!

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    1. I see their stupid Bible, bullets, flag picture all the time, and I have to wonder what part of "Christian" Freepers embrace (besides incessant judgment). I have two questions:
      1. What makes them Christian, exactly?
      2. With revenge as their favorite hobby, how are they different from the suicide bombers and thugs they hate so much? Do they think they're the only ones who ever felt the need for (and deserved) revenge?

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  2. So basically Crevicetool is bragging about how he is going to kill 5 possibly 8 guys in a coward sneak attack and Freepers applaud and offer to help. What are they going to do? Have the Rascal ready and powered up to help him make his escape?

    Gotta keep the flames stoked. Report a story about an attack that happened around 10/20/13. The same report that got posted time and time again after it happened.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087564/posts

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    1. So basically Crevicetool is bragging about how he is going to kill 5 possibly 8 guys in a coward sneak attack and Freepers applaud and offer to help.

      They're willing to pretend that his story is true as long as he's willing to pretend that their offer of help is sincere. It's a typical FReeper quid pro quo.

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  3. Wow, it's almost like there's a freeper lack of merit badge for elaborate revenge fantasies.

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  4. It's just like Jesus said in the Bible: "What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."

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    1. Or Jesus's words on the cross, "Father, punish them, for they know what they are doing."

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    2. And they're always complaining about how violent the Q'uran is.

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  5. What freepers refuse to recognize is that the only reason there was anyone arrested for this at all was other blacks calling the police and turning them in, and probably stopping the attack before it went fatal.

    And CreviceTool ( what a name), I. doubt he was just beaten at random by 8 gang members ... theres a reason that the worst theyd get would be a suspended sentence.

    But his whole story reads like a Stormfront Short Story Contest entry anyway.

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    1. Speaking of which, this thread just popped up. Should be a good one.

      NEWSPAPERS DIRECTED: COVER UP BLACK VIOLENCE
      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087738/posts

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    2. Oh now they have a reason to dump Thomas Sowell!!!

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  6. Black on white violence is ignored in the media..gotta side somewhat with the freeps. Until Jessie and Al speak up about it and condemn it more whites are going to say enough is enough.

    I know plenty of whites who are sick and tired of being blamed for everything.

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    1. I know plenty of whites who are sick and tired of being blamed for everything.

      Yeah, I bet you do.

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    2. Do you have any idea how awful what you're saying is? Whipping post? Really?

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    3. I'm about as white as you can get. Nobody would ever mistake me for a minority. And yet, I've never had anything blamed on me or felt shamed for being white. Nobody has ever used me for a "whipping post" or said that I was the cause of every bad thing that happens in America. I don't know where these people you know live or what kind of news they listen to or read or what kind of people they hang around (although I have a few theories), but one would really have to dig to find white people being blamed for everything.

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    4. kidglov3s..grow up and stop being so offended over a little bit of language. Are you such an emasculated yap dog everything bothers you? I had zero intention of referring to a whipping post as being remotely related to blacks.

      You all have reading comprehension problems..what I was pointing out is there is daily, black on white crime, horrific in nature but no reporting by the media. If that same crime was white on black it would be plastered on every tv and media outlet for weeks and you know it. Double standard is what pissing me off.

      Euphgeek..you have to be shittin me..you have your head in the sand.

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    5. Yes euphgeek, but don't pretend that it never happens because it never happened to you.

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    6. kidglov3..and you are a emasculated girlie man drama queen offended over the littlest anti pc speech..

      Are you gonna cry now? here have a tissue.

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    7. Shot in the dark, but it sounds like you might be a little insecure about your masculinity. I hope this doesn't pose a problem for your whiteous fury.

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    8. I assume you've done research on this, then? Tell me, what is the ratio of black-on-white to white-on-black crimes reported? In the past year, how many white-on-black crimes were there and how many received wall to wall coverage? How did that compare to the number of black-on-white crimes that went under-reported? How many of the black-on-white crimes were racially motivated, and how many of the white-on-black crimes were?

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    9. Don't bother with euphgeek ...
      On this subject, he's in total denial.
      He thinks his personal experience is all that matters.

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    10. Unlike you, right? I'm sure facts are all that matter to you. And you'd prove it, too, if you had any facts to present.

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    11. They're fighting a race war euphgeek, they ain't got time for facts.

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    12. Yeah, euphgeek and kidglov3s are the "Comedians" on this blog for violent crime posts.

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    13. Oh shit I have a low favorables among self described "whites who are getting sick and tired of being the whipping post for every bad thing that happens in America".

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    14. Does this mean that you guys won't tell me any of your hilarious black people jokes?

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    15. And there you go. Your use of the phrase "race pimping" reveals you to be an extreme bigot right up there with Stormfront and the Freepers. Do you hate that you're no longer allowed to burn crosses in black people's yards? That lynching is a thing of the past? If you think that under-reporting black-on-white crime is in any way equivalent to those things, you probably do. Every time I hear someone complain about how put-upon white people are in America, they eventually reveal themselves to be a racist.

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    16. Yeah they are race pimps. Jacksons Rainbow coalition is supposed to help people of all races..show me where he has helped a white or asian person that suffered from racial taunts or harrassment by blacks..yeah they are race pimps who don't give a shit about blacks except what benefits their own wallets..and yes they hate white people.

      Face it dude you are on the wrong side on this one.

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    17. If you, a racist, thinks I'm on the wrong side, then I couldn't be happier with the side I'm on. If you want to hear your own opinion parroted back to you, go to Free Republic or Stormfront.

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    18. Show me where Jackson's Rainbow Coaltition has stood with a white or Asian who had racist comments thrown to them by a black person.

      And again this is about the double standard of reporting crime by the media..everyone with an ounce of brain cells know there is a double standard.

      But call me racist, a person who has posted more Freepers racism/anti women threads than anyone here. Just posted one yesterday..I'm sure ozy can look at my IP and back me up.

      You and I have agreed on most items on other threads btw..

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    19. This is how mentally and emotionally sick euphgeek and kidgloves3s have become.

      Merely acknowledging that unprovoked black-on-white racial attacks have happened somehow makes one a "racist".

      Euphgeek and kidgloves3s have, themselves, become "racists" in their irrational denials of actual reported, charged, and judged cases.

      After all, it has NEVER happened to them.

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    20. I don't care if you've posted about Freeper racism in the past or if I've agreed with you on other things. If you're going to start spewing racism, I'm going to call you on it no matter what your political leaning is. Calling Jackson and Sharpton "race pimps" is way over the line for me.

      This began with the quote, "I know plenty of whites who are sick and tired of being blamed for everything." I'm not sure if that was you or not, but that's what this was all about. Whites are not and never have been some downtrodden minority in this country. The only people who think that invariably turn out to be upset that they can't call black people the n-word anymore.

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    21. Where have I denied that there are instances of black on white violence.

      The claims I've made here a that

      1. "I know many whites who are getting sick and tired of being the whipping post for every bad thing that happens in America" is awfully problematic and comes across like something a very racist person would say.

      2. Inferences like "emasculated yap dog" and "emasculated girlie man drama queen offended over the littlest anti pc speech", where sex or gender had not come up whatsoever beforehand, suggest some degree of insecurity, one that may in fact interfere with ones ability to properly engage in the race war.

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    22. *makes popcorn*

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    23. "Calling Jackson and Sharpton "race pimps" is way over the line for me."

      Because it is the truth...they are race pimps..They stir up racial shit to benefit their own cause. again euphgeek show me an instance where the supposedly color blind "Rainbow Coalition" which is supposed to help people of all colors has stood with a white or Asian who was subject to racism by a black person.

      I hate lap dogs whether far RW or Left who are so entrenched in their beliefs they don't see common sense.
      Oh and I never called you a racist..that is Anon #2, I am Anon #1.

      As for you kidglove3s..yeah I am real insecure lol..one of my best friends is gay..matter of fact going to a funeral tomorrow for his brother who just died. And yeah I hate emasculated lap dog males who think every issue or problem is caused by white males..lap dog guys who think if they stick up for feminazi's they will get their dick sucked. Guess what? Those man hating bitches are not gonna suck your dick..Oh and BTW my wife is a hyphenated woman, strong and independent but loves men and is far from a radical feminazi.

      I am across the board in my beliefs. pro gay marriage ( but a Christian baker should not have to sell to a gay wedding party-for Christ sakes just go somewhere else to buy your cake from someone who appreciates your business) , voted for Obama twice, pro 2nd amend though want universal background checks. I lean moderate to left.

      I 'm done for today..I think..

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    24. So you believe discrimination against people on the basis of sexual orientation should be legal? I'd love to hear what revolutionary ideas you have about drinking fountains, voting laws and other areas where the reins need to be kept tight from those goddamn hippies.

      I'm really sad as feminazi man-hating bitch to learn that I've dropped the ball by not providing the customary oral sex expected when people stick up for me. What a disgrace to the noble white race huh?

      You're such a prize, shame to learn you are taken.

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    25. lol, this dude sounds confused

      "pro 2nd amend though want universal background checks"
      "pro gay marriage ( but a Christian baker should not have to sell to a gay wedding party"
      "race pimps... but I'm not racist"
      "feminazis... my wife is a hyphenated woman, strong and independent but loves men"

      It's almost as if he has no idea of the context behind of these contentious issues. But then Blogger is made for people like this, people with loud contradictory opinions.

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    26. He's much more fun than comedian, imo. Although the styles are meshing too much as it goes on. It might be at the point where Occam's razor suggests it is comedian. If so, I guess I'd like to let it be known that I'm a big fan of the new bit.

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    27. I'd be more inclined to believe comedian is posting as kidglov3s today, as an agent provocateur.

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    28. I kinda see where you are coming from - there are certainly folks on the left who are pretty fast to play the race card.
      But it's a few loudmouths, and it's not dictating policy. And its certainly not causing a widespread media coverup of black-on-white crime. To rant about 'race pimps' is to give these people a primacy they do not deserve in the service of your own search for umbrage.

      As to the specific story you're citing, it's not very sinister - the press fails to cover all sorts of violent crimes every day.
      Yes, such crimes occur daily, and no they are not always widely covered. But that's true for the vast majority of crimes, from black-on-black to white-on-white. If you heard of some white-on-black crime that was reported only locally, would you assume a coverup?

      As to the "if a white had killed a black it totally woulda been covered!" That kind of speculative victimhood is weak sauce, man.

      Turning to statistics, as has been noted above, the incidence of violent crime generally is dropping, and black-on-white violence with it. Despite what you might hear about an 'epidemic' the numbers show that there is no recent growth, and that white victims are not any more common than one might expect - less in fact.

      And finally, your weird accusation that people who take exception to your thesis are somehow not real men is adorable.

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    29. Because it is the truth...they are race pimps..They stir up racial shit to benefit their own cause.

      Was MLK a "race pimp"? Just because you stir stuff up doesn't mean that it's wrong.

      show me an instance where the supposedly color blind "Rainbow Coalition" which is supposed to help people of all colors has stood with a white or Asian who was subject to racism by a black person.

      First show me how big of a problem black-on-white or black-on-Asian crimes are. Then maybe I'll entertain your false equivalence.

      I hate lap dogs whether far RW or Left who are so entrenched in their beliefs they don't see common sense.

      I hate people who define their own prejudices as "common sense".

      Oh and I never called you a racist..that is Anon #2, I am Anon #1.

      I believe I have a pretty good handle on who's posting what. But if you want to be distinguished from others, you could always choose "Name/URL" and choose a name like "Anon123" or something like that.

      one of my best friends is gay

      Dude, did you seriously just make that argument?

      The rest of the post, others have addressed and I see no need to add anything myself.

      Euph - you are wrong on this. How many kids were killed or badly hurt in the last week in Chicago. Detroit. Baltimore. LA.

      Does it matter what color the victims and assailants were? To me it does not. Protect kids is a core part of life. I know you were talking about black on white crimes - fair enough. What about black on black? Hispanic on black? Hispanic on hispanic? All equally wrong.

      I am pro life (with the three qualifications) That includes life AFTER birth.


      Good for you, you're consistent in that regard, at least. Now you just have to learn exactly what makes you a racist, as well as your need to try to deflect that by projecting it onto other people.

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    30. kidglov3s (ha ha see how easy this is)November 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      "Now you just have to learn exactly what makes you a racist, as well as your need to try to deflect that by projecting it onto other people"

      Right back atcha, euphy.
      I know you consider yourself educated and oh-so-superior on subjects of race, but it is so amusing to watch you project your own prejudices on others in a greater degree.

      Euphgeek, holding a full hand of race cards, so eager to deal them out.

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    31. So your only comeback is to repeat things I've said back to me? So convincing. :eyeroll:

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    32. "So your only comeback is to repeat things I've said back to me? So convincing"

      Actually it is. You're nothing but a fake, a cut-and-paste liberal racist phony, plagiarizing sound bites and phrases that everyone has heard since the 1960s as if they are your own.
      I'm sure that old schtick still plays well among the other fakes at academic cocktail parties, but this is the real world.

      Really, you should keep your nose in your textbooks, plugging away at your failed career until your death from alcoholism two years after your retirement.

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    33. Ha
      Euphgeek and the comedian really do have much in common.

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    34. I'm glad you think I'm a racist, because that means I'm doing everything right. You, on the other hand, don't even have the guts to admit you hate black people. You have to pretend it's other people who have the problem, not you. Because you're perfect, right?

      Ha
      Euphgeek and the comedian really do have much in common.


      Yeah, if you squint really hard and stand on your head, we're almost the same.

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    35. Euphgeek ... fat little man, with a douchebag goatee, probably smokes a pipe for that extra dose of pretentiousness.
      Favorite piece of clothing is his threadbare tweed blazer with worn out suede elbow patches, that he's worn almost daily for the last thirty years.

      Bitter little rat faced wife (they both felt they had to settle for each other by their mid-30s, each still trying to achieve their doctorates in fringe subjects no one cares about).

      But yes, both so superior ... yep euphy, you sure did everything right ! Ha ha ha ha ha.

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    36. Keep building those strawmen. Those are the only arguments you'll ever win.

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    37. "Good for you, you're consistent in that regard, at least. Now you just have to learn exactly what makes you a racist, as well as your need to try to deflect that by projecting it onto other people."

      Thank you for calling me racist. It is always good to be judged at random by a stranger who hasn't clue one about our life and family.
      I am racist. I favor my race above all. The human race.

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    38. Um...yeah. Being judged by strangers sure does suck, doesn't it?

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    39. I don't think euphgeek even knows what a strawman is.
      He probably heard it at a cocktail party once.

      Whoever described him has him down pat though.

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    40. No, I'm not as ignorant as you are. And whoever described me sure has experience in judging others with no evidence. Kind of supports everything I've said, doesn't it?

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    41. If it wasn't about you, it could have been from you judging (by the evidence above) from the way you behave on these threads.

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    42. As long as you've convinced yourself of that.

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    43. I didn't convince anybody.
      You've convinced everybody yourself.

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    44. Me and everyone else. Your nincompoopery is now well documented.

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    45. By "everyone else" you mean the other voices in your head? Or do you imagine that you speak for everyone on the entire planet?

      Regardless, you seem to be laboring under the false assumption that I care what you and your fellow racists think of me. You, on the other hand, seem to care a great deal about what I think of you, as evidenced by you trying to convince yourself that my behavior on this thread was a problem.

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    46. Hm...so someone who presumes to speak for "everyone else" is lecturing me on my arrogance and superiority complex? And I love your insults like "nincompoop", "boob" and "ninny". As if anyone born after 1950 gives a shit.

      You think I'm the one not facing reality when you can't even point to any facts on your side and have to resort to name calling? Man, this is too funny.

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    47. Name calling is euphgeek's specialty, its all he has to go on.
      Any facts? The stories that generate these freeper threads really happened.
      Euphgeek seems to pretend, in his arrogance and superiority, that nothing ever happened, and bases his commentary from that unreality.
      Yes, indeed, he is a silly old fool.

      Freepers may be wrong about alot of things, but they are right on when calling out ultralibs like euphy.

      Like JimRob and freepers make all conservatives look like nut cases, Euphy makes all progressive liberals look like nut bags by association.

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    48. If name calling is my "specialty", you should be able to point out one instance in this thread where I've called someone a name. Oh, you can't? Maybe that's because it this brave anonymous person who is calling me names, not the other way around. Congratulations on showing yourself to be a liar.

      All I've done is ask for evidence. And no, cherry-picked evidence like the one FR link in this thread doesn't count. Meanwhile, this link from earlier in the thread shows that the racists are lying.

      So you may call me a "silly old fool", an "ultralib" or equally absurd insults, but you can't fight the facts and reality. Oh, who am I kidding. That's all racists and RWNJs do. Have fun with your race war.

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    49. So still can't come up with any time I've done any name-calling? And now you're stealing other people's usernames? I guess lying is all you can do when you lose an argument.

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    50. Ozymandius (ha ha ha ha ha)November 7, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      Anyone who disagrees with you ... superior you ... must be a "racist and RWNJ". Ha ha ha ha ha.
      What a self important maroon. Ha ha ha.

      No wonder you couldn't even make it in academia.

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    51. You can't stop lying, can you? Typical racist/RWNJ when you lose an argument.

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    52. Typical euphy-foofy ... a loser in life and a liar on the web.
      What a left-wing racist you are, racism just as filthy as that of the KKK, but delivered from an arrogant air of liberal academic superiority.
      I'd wonder why you're not asleep by now, but then I remember who you're married to.
      I'd be up all night too if I were you before I'd be climbing into bed with that frigid rat faced pig.

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    53. Ad hominem an lies...all you RWNJ/racists have after losing an argument. Heck, even before losing.

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    54. Everything you've said about euphgeek ?
      It's all true, unfortunately.
      He's actually sitting here in tears.

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    55. I'm enjoying your meltdown after losing this argument. It's almost as great as Karl Rove's meltdown after Obama curbstomped Romney.

      Please proceed.

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    56. As I'm enjoying yours, euphy.
      Mother was right, I could have done so much better than you.

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    57. I'm your fat rat faced wife ...
      I ALWAYS get in the last word!

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    58. Please recede.

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    59. la la la la

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    60. Reply 100 !!!!!
      Yay !!!

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    61. This is the real mental and not the weirdo who stole my name and posted the second post.

      C'mon euph why do you even waste your time arguing with this idiot who is almost certainly the comedian ?

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    62. If you'll notice, I'm not arguing with him anymore. I'm just letting him continue to talk. He's entertaining and I want to see what else he comes up with.

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  7. I circled the date 5 years in the future to take my revenge when nobody would make the connection back to the beating.

    Cops somehow connecting a mysterious outbreak of violence toward five people with an attack in which all of them were involved as a matter of public record? That's unpossible! I mean, five years...how much is that in cop years? Like, a century, at least, right?

    As long as CreviceTool's writing creative fiction, why not throw in a tough cop who vowed to help him enforce Justice, even if it means bending the rules until they break?

    Kidding aside, it's kind of cute how Freepers ignore the existence of things like newspapers and arrest records when they spin their yarns. I remember another Freeper who singlehandedly beat up more than a dozen guys who attacked him. You'd think the papers would've been interested! Hell, you'd think he would've sold the film rights. But nah...just another example of unsung heroism on the mean streets of FReeperville.

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  8. Euph - you are wrong on this. How many kids were killed or badly hurt in the last week in Chicago. Detroit. Baltimore. LA.

    Does it matter what color the victims and assailants were? To me it does not. Protect kids is a core part of life. I know you were talking about black on white crimes - fair enough. What about black on black? Hispanic on black? Hispanic on hispanic? All equally wrong.

    I am pro life (with the three qualifications) That includes life AFTER birth.

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    1. Do you really care? And if you do, how do you plan to get the guns out of their hands?

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    2. Actually - I do care,

      Getting the guns out of their hands - hell, I don't know. Serious control doesn't work. Arming the potential victims? - have you seen the way most people shoot? I got no answers here.

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    3. That's exactly how I feel about the situation, too. You summed it up pretty well.

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  9. I think there's so much frustration among some Freepers that they're this close to strapping on their own suicide bomb vests, but they'll feel like they have a really, really, really, really good excuse for it. Because, Christian.

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    1. Love how they argue about the Ten Commandments, the Bible,
      cursing+cussing but it 's okay to kill people that don't parrot your favorite rhetoritician.

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  10. OK. So if I've got this straight, one guy says black-on-white crime is an epidemic and the media is covering it up. A couple of people ask for some proof of this, after noting that official stats [link actually included!] seem to suggest otherwise. The first guy then calls everyone fags and pussies.

    Just another day on the Internet, in other words. I've yet to see a "racial realist" who didn't spew feminizing abuse when confronted for spewing racist horseshit. It's almost as though they've got some kinda serious emotional problem with "difference" per se.

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