'I hate compromise but I hate the left even more.'

I said earlier that Freepers are arguing about idealism versus pragmatism. Looking at this thread, I think I was wrong to generalize - a few Freepers are arguing. Lazamataz, whom I hear is usually a good, big-hearted guy with a sense of humor, seems to be having kind of a crisis of impotent paranoia, and is riling up the troops.

rodguy911 gives us our title - he even bolded it!

For me once the primaries are over and I have done all I can to get rid of the hideous rinos and others I don't want to see in power in the party as trite as it sounds it is time to come together.

For me its either that or watch the socialist dems of every ilk from homos to communists unite and kick our ass once again.For me that is the ultimate insult and I do all I can to stop it from happening. Will I hold my nose and vote for a candidate who is 50-60% of what I wanted? Probably. Knowing I didn't do all I could and there is little if any excuse for getting less than I wanted but also realizing the consequences of all my actions.I simply can't be a party to allowing the hard left even more access than they already have.I hate compromise but I hate the left even more.

This forum is blessed with the voices of brilliance from all avenues of conservatism. I rue the day when any of them are stifled for not being 100% politically conservative enough.

Mouton rails against the business lobby and it's Democratic ways...

Recall that the Chamber is 100% about also pushing for amnesty. This is a true picture of business in this country, a facist inspired bunch on the dole of the government. What these clowns fail to recognize is as soon as they allow the left to win on O care and Amnesty, they will be next on the list when “equality of income” begins to play. Stockholders now have virtually no say in what management does but then they are capitalists by and large. When those who support socialism get farther in the majority, these “leaders” will rue the day they thought they were getting a leg up on everyone else due to cheap labor and moving their health costs onto their workers. The leg up will the those Pi....ng on them.

LibLieSlayer has a plan for businesses to stop banding together to negotiate.

You do not change the chamber of communists... you remove them from any position of authority. Business people despise them... do not join them... ridicule them and they will shrink.

Lazamataz knows everyone who isn't a Freeper is a liberal, and this worth hating:

Who hates who more, conservatives hating the GOPe for not being conservative enough or GOPe hating conservatives for thinking they are not conservatives too. Methinks the feeling is mutual.

Yes, I admit it.

I hate liberals.

No matter WHAT label they wear.

MinuteGal has a long post,but I posted the whole thing because its engagingly passionate, and because Freepers call it liberal:

I know most freepers already are aware of the fact that FR has become the repository of anti-Mormon wolf packs ( posting here for a couple years, now )....and now we see similar anti-Republican Party wolf packs who patrol our threads pouncing on posters who dare to criticize or comment on some issue or GOP politician that doesn't conform to the positions of the packs' various members.

What anti-something will be forming next?

Reading some of the threads this past week referring to Republicans such as Huckabee, Ryan and others, I was sickened at the coarse, vulgar, profane, insulting, hateful verbiage. You are either a wolf pack-styled "pure" conservative......or you are a despicable, stupid, treasonous Republican party member or leader who "embraces evil" as stated upthread.

The wolf pack members haven't the faintest clue that those of us who are conservative Republican Party members are no longer amused at the attacks on us because we don't pass their litmus tests on every political issue and personage. We're no longer amused that we are considered garbage just because we don't agree with losing strategies, i.e. third/fourth parties, or re-registering as "independents" (therefore becoming emasculated in many states' vital primaries)....or staying home and not voting at all. We cannot voice these opinions without nasty personal comebacks from the wolf-packers.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion here...and entitled to comebacks and pithy retorts, but it's becoming blatantly obvious that one must post and duck now if one's comment is quickly picked up by one of the roving wolf-packers and immediately becomes the target of over-the-line attacks and insults.

If one should protest the name-calling and personal insults, one is a "chicken" and should not be here....or one belongs over at DU, the Democrat leftist web site.

Management apparently doesn't care what's happening here...the former caveats on personal attacks and offensive language have been forsaken for a long time now....the current attitude is if you don't like it, leave.

I personally know many freepers who HAVE left this board, who are thinking of leaving this board....or who have cut out or cut down their contribution$ because of the intolerance, the coarse, graphic language and the verbal assaults currently rolling through many of the threads like an ever-enlarging snowball.

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My conservative credentials are open for all to see....but if I don't watch my step and mention on a thread the wrong type of comment on a Huckabee or a Ryan or a Rubio or an Issa or whoever the wolf packs' current "Republican Party Outcast/Traitor de Jour" happens to be...well, then.... I instantly become one of those verboten "Republican RINOS"....or one of those vile "Republican moderates", not fit to sully the pages of this forum with my evil opinions.

I've just about had enough of the small group of anti-Republican Party attempts to take over thread after thread, not to mention the garbage, coarse "new tone" to be found on more and more Free Republic pages if you aren't a conservative "purist" and still belong to...gasp....the elite-controlled Republican Party.

If there's no room for staunch GOP adherents here who believe in working for change WITHIN the party, let's get it out in the open.

The wolf packs want a "pure" conservative forum here....GOP members are immediately suspect....and can get lost, for all they care.

If FR becomes a blatant anti-Republican Party hate-site, I'm outta here. I pray this will not happen.

Leni/MinuteGal

Norm Lenhart calls Alinsky:

“The wolf pack members haven’t the faintest clue that those of us who are conservative Republican Party members are no longer amused at the attacks on us because we don’t pass their litmus tests on every political issue and personage.”

The traditional conservative has put 80% as the threshold for support. Romney couldn’t hit double digits. Most of the GOP leadership is far below it.

Your purity BS falls apart.

Show the math on how one moves right/conservative by electing and supporting people advocating leftist positions like illegal immigration, homosexual special rights, screwing our veterans, global warming, surveillance state tactics and the rest.

No really. Show us the math.

What you have written is a woe is use Sauls’ ‘personalize it’ tactic by labeling us as a wolfpack attacking you.

Your insanity should be attacked by any person that believes in principle. Lastly, why are you so arrogant as to poo poo the words of our founders who specifically told us to keep the enemy and his ideas in their own camp and out of yours (See Alexander Hamilton for details).

Unless the enemy’s camp IS your own.

Lazamataz also knows who'se a liberal:

I can DEMONSTRATE how you are not a conservative. When we are done with this, I will do so.

But try to do the same with me.

I've noticed you have a very hard time staying focused on a topic, so perhaps I ask too much, but: Staying focused only on the issues of the day, and on who I support as a politician, comb through my posting history, and point out the places where it can be stated I am not a Conservative.

Put up or shut up, you CINO Establishment Republican harridan. :)

Lazamataz takes pride in his civil demeanor:

Yes, and none of my civil demeanor and valid points is worth a damn.

Just because of who I happened to be on the thread with.

Why, that sounds positively liberal.

Yes, you've slipped. And yes: Good day.

Norm Lenhart declares that anyone he thinks is wrong is a liberal:

As Ronaldus said, The problem with liberals is that they think they know so many things that just aren’t so.

Mirror. Look in one.

Sirius Lee explains that you gotta treat everything that isn't doctrine as literally toxic:

You sound like one of those people who will guzzle a glass of 80% 'rat poison (jeb, christie, romney) because, by golly, it's less than 100% rat poison (hitlery).

I would like 100% fresh water (Cruz) or at the very least something with no more poison in it that Rand or Walker.

The days of swallowing whatever toxic, globalist, homo-advocating, gun-grabbing, federal-government-expanding, freedom-curtailing swill of a candidate the rovetards push is over.

DoughtyOne solves everyone's problem in a giant opus, excerpted here:

Article Four Section Four of the United States Constitution included language that states the president “SHALL” (will, must, cannot decide not to) protect the states from invasion. Bush didn’t bother. Not Dole, McCain, or Romney would have. Clinton didn’t. Obama hasn’t. They were of a mind on this subject. As bad as Obama is, his views are no worse on immigration than theirs were.

These men, as much as we may want to like them, were each destroyers. On one or more topics they killed our ability to approach people saying the Republicans were worth supporting, because on very important issues they would be better.

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Our nation is dying. While we remain hopeful and supportive of the only party we’ve been a part of, it’s loyalty to us, and more importantly our Founders and Founding Documents, is non-existent.

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I wish to turn this nation back into Ronald Reagan’s America. I do not want to turn it into Adolph Hitler’s idea of America.

We should pull together. We should not look for false problems. We should look for people who share our views and cause. We should join them, to turn this nation around.

If we keep focusing on the wrong issues, those that separate us falsely, our nation is doomed.

Whatever route we take from here, it must be one that is not predicated on waiting and hoping.

It is time to take a stand against the status quo, that being anything other than our founding principles.

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It is up to each of us individually to reason if the Republican Party agrees to return to the Founding Principles. No matter what our belief or wishes are, the outcome of the party’s actions will be the same.

We must come to terms with what is taking place. We haven’t left our party…

See, everyone can agree on endless, repetitive complaints and railing against the status quo!