The US government supports Hamas

Star Traveler is a fine and crazy Freeper. But it seems he doesn't think Obama is funding Hamas. This makes for some amusing "facts versus shouting" moments on this thread.

stars & stripes forever kinda lets his evangelical nature take over a biiit too much:

The LORD God Almighty promises to fight Israel’s battle for them if they turn to Him.

One Way: JESUS!

Uncle Miltie is one of many to assume everyone killed in Gaza is a terrorist.

If you’re getting a greater than 10:1 ratio of Dead Terrorists : Israeli Heroes, then you’re doing pretty well. Keep it up.

Freedom isn’t free.

But make sure the other guy pays for evil by at least one order of magnitude.

Star Traveler tries to explain that US foreign aid isn't going to bombs:

The USA doesn’t send Hamas billions a year. The USA doesn’t send a penny a year to Hamas in Gaza.

The USA does send humanitarian aid to the Palestinians, and so does Israel and a lot of other countries. Israel doesn’t have any problem with this as the government of Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have said their fight is not with Palestinian civilians, but with Hamas, the terrorist organization.

Diogenesis - "Despite your claims." Despite your claim,

the USA supports Hamas, the Moslem Brotherhood,
the “rebels”, and even the Islamic terrorists
who grabbed hundreds of girls in Africa.

Diogenesis will not be deterred by facts:

So, just as criminals here in the USA benefit by a functioning and working society and the benefits from that society ... Hamas can benefit from being in a society there too ..but we don’t shut down society because there are criminals who benefit from society being there.

You are disingenuous.
The money goes directly to Hamas
for rockets to kill Jews and Israelis,
for weapons to kill Jews and Israelis,
for tunnels to kill and kidnap Jews and Israelis.

The money, including US Taxpayer money, goes to Hamas, and the murderous terrorists in Africa where Lerner even BACKDATED the form.

Diogenesis reveals his sources!

The US government supports Hamas and other terrorists.

Tell the truth ... if you can.

EVEN cartoonists knew it, years ago.

 

RitaOK knows US diplomacy is all just a psy-op:

Diog, you left out something:

Please add that “Kerry goes to the Jews to befuddle, skuttle and betray them.”

As for this writer, it reads like psy-ops to demoralize.

ROCKLOBSTER also doesn't think much of dipolmats:

Manor, the Israeli ambassador, vowed that Israel would “destroy” Hamas’s military infrastructure.

“However, the Gaza residents are not our enemies. Israel is fully committed to international law,” he said. Ambassador

Politics...diplomatic language aka "lying".

ROCKLOBSTER lays out what has to happen for there to be peace:

And furthermore...

If the murdering Palis are not the enemy, they need to prove it by having emergency recall elections, and electing a bunch of Rabbis and menches to most public offices.

dfwgator can't forget Iran Contra:

Sorry to disappoint you, but it’s against the law in the USA for the government (or anyone else) to give money or arms to Hamas, which is an officially designated terrorist organization, per USA official documents.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Like that ever stopped anyone.

Piranha - the truth about Benghazi proves Obama is all about secret funding of terrorists:

The problem you have is mixing up Hamas, the terrorist organization, with the Palestinian civilians who live in a Gaza. The USA does send humanitarian aid to the Palestinians, and so does Israel and a lot of other countries. Israel doesn’t have any problem with this.

Under Obama the US government deals in subterfuge. The Benghazi murders took place over a secret Obama initiative to give weapons to fanatic Islamofascist terrorists jn Syria. The US gives money to the Palestinian Authority for deployment in Gaza knowing full well that much of it is diverted to Hamas.

The US denied that it was supporting the Islamonazi Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and everyone knew that this also was a lie.

There is not room even for plausible deniability any longer.

Star Traveler needs to be careful making this argument to Freepers:

Those Palestinian “Civilians” Voted for and support Hamas.

About a little over half the voters in the USA voted for Obama but no one has put all those voters in jail yet ... LOL ...

And note, no one has said that they can’t have a job, that they can’t get any Social Security retirement, that they can’t be allowed to have Medicare, that they are not allowed to drive or — to sum it up — that because they voted for the worst guy ever to be a President of the USA — that they are to be deprived of anything (for that vote) as a civilian in the USA.

Sherman Logan rather destroys the "Muslims only understand force" argument in terms Freepers might understand:

We bombed the cities of Germany and Japan, knowingly killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. And that's what finally broke them.

Did not break Germany, and didn't break Japan till we graduated to nukes.

The terror bombing of cities, especially in Germany, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, but had little impact on the German war effort, at least relative to our resources used. It arguably was a war crime, at least in modern terms, and certainly by those of the 19th century.

Are you willing to have this criteria applied to America? If so, terrorist attacks here by an enemy with which we are at war would be legitimate, at least if the enemy donned uniforms before attacking.

Piranha - Star Traveler is posting nothing but lies and Nazi accusations!

Like a bot, Star Traveler starts threads and adds two or three comments of his own to make the threads look active. He uses formulaic cut-and-paste from one thread to another (so I have been answering him using the same strategy).

He consistently tries to ignore US law and argue that the hundreds of millions of dollars that we have given to the PA-Hamas government, which are illegal under US law, are not payments to Hamas.

He used to argue that Israel's only agenda in this war was to dig up the tunnels and implied that anything further would be war crimes.

He vociferously urged us to believe that the FAA decision to isolate Israel was not politically driven.

When he posts his lies, I try to tell the truth.

What really got me going was at the beginning of this war, when he urged everyone who disagreed with him to "SHUT UP" because they were (a) hurting Israel's war effort, (b) giving the Islamonazis fuel to argue that Israel and its allies want to kill all Muslims and (c) as bad as the Nazis because moving a hostile population of suicide bombers is analogous to murdering 6 million Jews with gas and ovens, to say nothing of the Gypsies, gays, Polish army, etc.